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Loveland - August 9, 2013

Loveland Mayor Cecil Gutierrez along with Council Members Joan Shaffer, Ralph Trenary and Phil Farley  dropped
their objections to sending the governor a letter asking for a stay in enforcement of HB 1224, Colorado's new gun
control law that prohibits Coloradoans from buying ammunition magazines with a capacity of more than 15

Five weeks after asking that reference to HB 1224 be removed from a previous letter the council sent the
governor objecting to enforcement of another controversial gun control law, HB 1229, the council's four
Democrats reversed their previous position last Tuesday and agreed to sign another letter to the governor this
time protesting HB 1224 as well; the magazine size limit law.

Their sudden change of heart may be attributed to compelling testimony by a number of Loveland businesses
regarding the dire economic impact the new law (HB 1224) will have on their businesses along with comments
by Loveland's Police Chief Luke Hecker who said the city will be at risk given the ambiguities of the law.  Buddy
Meyer, who owns Tall Guns in Loveland and chairs the city's planning commission, provided the council a
powerpoint presentation overview of the law's ambiguities and far reaching impacts within the community.  
While Colorado's Attorney General has provided a memorandum indicating several provisions will or will not be
enforced, Meyer explained that designing compliance around the clear language of the law exceeded the
governor's authority and creates a dangerous precedent.

Councilman Ralph Trenary drew an X over his name at the bottom of the proposed protest letter to the governor
at the beginning of the meeting while Mayor Gutierrez was clear in his many comments to friends and supporters
he would not "sign another letter" to the governor protesting enforcement of Colorado's new gun laws.  

Following a unanimous vote by the council to send the second letter to the governor asking for a stay of
enforcement of a new Colorado gun law, each member made an impassioned speech about their own view of both
gun control and HB 1224.  Both Gutierrez and Trenary appeared to rely on the impact to public law enforcement
in their concerns and not the indented impact on private citizens.  They asked for an amendment addressing the
impact on public organizations which was agreed to by their colleagues.

Raw emotions were touched when Councilman Dave Clark expressed concern that some of his colleagues decided
to oppose the legislation only when they realized it could have a detrimental impact on the city's police
department or the National Guard.  Both Mayor Cecil Gutierrez and Councilman Ralph Trenary are former
members of Colorado's National Guard and expressed doubt and frustration when learning even this venerable
institution is struggling to create a clear compliance plan for its own members under Colorado's new gun control
laws.  Especially disconcerting were comments by Chief Hecker in response to questions by Councilwoman
Shaffer when he explained the Loveland Police Department is struggling to create a completely compliant policy
let alone try and enforce the complicated and confusing law upon local citizens.

Clark's specific comment that seemed to pivot the discussion for some into a defensive posture was;

"regardless if this is a  is a private issue with private citizens or dealing with public law enforcement or even
the national guard it is a bad thing.   I am concerned that some members, said 'oh now that it effects the
national guard or the public law enforcement oh than it is a bad thing.  It was a bad thing even when it effected
our private citizens.  I think we need to remember that and not look at it only in reaction to public officials"

Mayor Gutierrez later countered,

"........i just resent that being said that" while claiming to have been concerned over the impacts of the gun control
laws "from day one."   This comment during the August 6, council meeting directly contradicts his comments on
the same topic during the July 2, meeting when Gutierrez feigned ignorance of the new laws stating he hadn't
really been paying attention to the subject since it is not a city issue.   In addition, Gutierrez stated earlier in the
same meeting the city has no say in the matter therefore implied the letter and discussion was unnecessary.

Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith also spoke to council on the topic saying,

"we are in unprecedented territory"

While he acknowledge the State Attorney General did give a reprieve to citizens by providing an alternative
direction for law enforcement officers he also explained it is dangerous to have the attorney general
reinterpreting a law differently than what is clearly written in the law.  Sheriff Smith  cautioned Loveland's City
Council that they already were caught in a 2nd Amendment violation case costing the city money.  

Mayor Gutierrez Fingers A Loveland Resident As Would Be Mass Murderer

After saying he would get the last word, Mayor Gutierrez read from a police report detailing the cause for a search
warrant into a Loveland resident's home who neighbors say was shooting into a nearby field using his silencer on
an AR-15 rifle.  According to Gutierrez, the confiscation of the accused guns and ammunition likely prevented
another mass murder but this time in Loveland.  While the Mayor decided not to reveal the address or proper
name of the accused, his accusation may have legal ramifications for the city.  Being accused of discharging a
firearm within city limits (criminal mischief) and planning a mass murder-suicide (first-degree murder) are two
completely types of crimes.  No word on the individual's response to the Mayor's comment.
Councilman Dave Clark (above)
ignited a string of emotional
responses after telling his
colleagues he was concerned
they only opposed HB 1224
when they discovered it
impacted public organizations

see video of his comment and
their emotional reactions
Councilwoman Joan Shaffer explains
her reasons for signing the letter to
Governor Hickenlooper while
defending gun control law intent
see video
Mayor Pro Tem Daryle Klassen
explains his position on
Colorado's newly created gun
control laws HB 1224 and HB
see video
Councilman Hugh McKean, who
proposed the letter to Governor
Hickenlooper explains his views
on Colorado's new gun
control laws
see video
A normally quiet Councilman
Chauncey Taylor sounds off in
loud voice over gun control issue
see video
An angry and emotional Mayor
Cecil Gutierrez explains his
complicated position both for
and against gun control in
see video

Mayor Gutierrez fip-flops claim of
concern about legislation
Councilman Ralph Trenary explains his
views on the letter to the governor and
reasons for changing his mind during
the meeting.
see video
Councilman John Fogle who says he doesn't own a rifle supports the
right of citizens to own the type, style and size firearm within reason
they choose.  He speaks to the motives of the State Legislature in
passing the recent gun control laws in Colorado and promises to help
create a groundswell of support for the city's position
see video

Council Unanimous In
Opposition to Magazine
Size Limits - But For
Different Reasons
Loveland Police Chief Luke Hecker explains
law enforcement problems implementing
Colorado's new gun control laws
see video